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Subject: iphone - today we have naming of ports
OK. on seeing that my iphone had two tiny 'grilled' ports on the bottom and one on the front, at the top, i naturally assumed that the two bottom ones were stereo mics and the top one on the front  was an earpiece [ie. speaker].

subsequent playing around has shown me that the two on the bottom are a single speaker and a mic.  so what is the one on the front of the phone for then?
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 20:10 #2
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oh yes.  i can totally see why they've done it that way from their point of view.  but to describe it as 'facebook meets itunes and twitter' and try and dress the whole thing up as  some kind of global "social networking for music lovers" when it's really just 'social networking for people who want to swap music available in the itunes store' is a bit disingenuous.
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 17:35 #3
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hmmm... i wonder if lady gaga's record company have just signed a big distribution deal with apple, by any chance?

... and now you come to mention it, the last few times i've clicked into the itunes store it's had a big advert for katy perry [whoever the feck she is?] on the homepage too. this is more nauseatingly cynical than i thought!

 :vomit:  <--- QFE
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 17:08 #4
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well, i've just updated to itunes10 on my home comp and thought i'd give ping a whirl.   i'm not that bothered if someone knows my real name and i dinnae intend to give it any confidential info, so what the heck.

  • i fill in the form and it asks me to pick what genres of music i like. 

  • there is no 'punk' or 'hard rock' so i choose 'alternative', 'blues' and 'rock'

  • itunes throws up a page of ridiculous commercial pap and kiddy-rock and 'recommends' i follow those bands.  er.... no thanks

uncanny! - this is exactly the kind of music i'm NOT into:
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  • so i try the search box instead and search for stiff little fingers [my fave band]...

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  • i then try; anti-nowhere league, UK subs, sex pistols, the clash, jimi hendrix.  each one throws up the same 'no results' error. OK. maybe some of my fave punk bands are a bit obscure, but jimi hendrix, fer feck's sake!  :doh:

you may say i didnae give it a fair go [although i gave it more of a run-out than speck  :grin: ] but really! - what a load of crap.  apple are trying to sell this as some kind of social network for music lovers, but it looks to me like a really pitiful attempt to bump up sales in itunes.  what's the bet that the only bands who the search results find are ones whose tunes are available on itunes?... and that the whole ping network revolves around recommending stuff to your friends that they can then buy from itunes?  :vomit:

apple are becoming more and more like micro$oft every day, in their increasing "how can we make a few bucks more off this?" attitude to absolutely everything they make or do. i think i'm going to christen a new 'moneygrabber' vewrsion of their company name.  how about "app£e" or "appl€"?  :thumbsdown:  :hmm:

as timothy leary might have said: "ping - itunes'd in. turned on. pissed off"
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 12:21 #5
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i've just got itunes10 myself.

i was  just setting up my new work imac, so i ran software update [as i always do with a new mac] and lo' and behold i've got itunes10.

no first impressions yet, as i havenae done more than glance at it.
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topic: well, i couldnae hold out any longer... (... got myself an iphone!)  in the forum: technical discussion › hardware
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 08:42 #6
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i havenae setup data yet.  well, i've filled in the appropriate details in the manual setup, but it's not working.  i think i might have to ring my carrier and ask them to activate it. i'd only use that in an emergency anyway as, not being on a proper data plan, it's charged by the MB.

i'm on ASDAmobile PAYG tariff:

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but i also get 500 free web texts a month, as part of my broadband package with O2*.  so, unless i needed to use data, i'll barely be spending anything on my phone - especially as i tend to text rather than call and have access to wifi at home and work.



[* i'm getting that broadband package for £7,50 a month, coz wee sis works for O2  :grin:  :thumbsup: ]
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topic: well, i couldnae hold out any longer... (... got myself an iphone!)  in the forum: technical discussion › hardware
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 08:00 #7
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my  'bullet-proof' case still hasnae arrived yet [damned bank holiday weekend over here - always causes a postal backlog].  so i'm just hoping i can manage to keep my phone-wrecking tendencies at bay 'til it does.  :crossed:

as far as the iphone is concerned, i used to think exactly the same; "way too overpriced.  not for the likes of me".  but a year or two of having an ipod touch made me  'think different' [pun intended  :grin: ].  looking at the iphone as a fancy phone, yes - it is a ridiculously overpriced fashion accessory.  this is the image the detractors [mostly android fanbois it seems, these days] like to paint.  however, my experience with the ipod touch has made me come to realise that i've been looking at it the wrong way round; the iphone isnae an expensive phone with a few extra goodies thrown in.  it's a micro-laptop, which happens to be able to make phonecalls too.

the fact that a significant number of iphone users do just have one as a status symbol and never use it for anything more that making phonecalls and dabbling with a few of the more obvious offerings from the app store does not lessen the potential of the product, any more than the fact that my mammy uses her macbook almost exclusively for internet, email, looking at photos from her digital camera and doing a bit of writing make the MB any less suitable for doing other stuff like web development or image manipulation.

the big caveat is that, as far as i'm concerned, jailbreaking is an absolute must.  someone i read on the intarwebs said something along the lines of  "an un-jailbroken iphone is only half an iphone" and i agree.  if i hadnae had previous experience of running a jailbroken ipod touch for such a long time, with rarely a problem and with the vastly increased functionality jailbreaking brings, i might have been wary about jailbreaking my new iphone, for fear of bricking it or rendering it completely unstable.  but, because of this previous experience, i jailbroke my iphone within about 20mins of first setting it up. 

so yeah £300-£500 is steep for a phone - far too steep for me.  but £300-£500 for an apple micro-laptop [i may have to patent that name  :grin: ] starts to look like much more of a bargain.  

anyway, the price of the handset itself was never the biggest hurdle for me.  if i want something badly enough, i'll save up for it and i have no problems with buying stuff like this 2nd-hand.  what was always the deal-breaker for me was these bloody tied contracts that apple have imposed.  no way was i going to pay around £30 a month when, with my usual mobile phone usage,  i could easily make £30 credit last me about four months. neither  did i didnae fancy buying a hacked about software-carrier-unlocked phone and living with the constant worry that a firmware or software update might 'brick' it.  but now, i reckon, is a great time to go hunting for 2nd-hand bargains.  lots of folks are coming to the end of their tied contract periods with their 3GSs and the phone companies are trying to hold onto them by offering free [or cheap] upgrades to iphone4.  at the end of their contracts people can get their existing iphones unlocked for free.  so as a result, there are suddenly a lot of carrier-unlocked [or even better in my case, apple-unlocked] 3GSs coming onto the 2nd-hand market.

i willnae be interested in the iphone4 for a year or two - 'til it's got a few revisions under its belt, the niggles have been ironed out and the inevitable "we've made it faster and doubled the capacity" iphone4 rev2 and 3 come along.  so i'm quite happy to have bagged myself a 3GS at a reasonable price and no ongoing cost of ownership, save whatever PAYG credit i stick on there from time to time.

i'd say go for it!  :grin:  :thumbsup:
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madra (Administrator) Yesterday, 06:36 #8
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In reply to post ID 17681
i'm a bit of an itunes-hater myself. i hate having to wait for it to launch, every time i need to do the smallest thing with my music or apps. and its automate-everything approach can be really annoying when things go wrong.

i was also a soundjam user 'back in the day' and found it a great app. i dinnae rem apple announcing any major rewrites of itumes and sometimes it does feel like apple's 'microsoft office'. they just keep bolting more and more 'stuff' onto what must by now be creaking foundations.

i like your nostalgia, nav: this modern digital audio disnae sound as good as the old digital audio! :simon:

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topic: redmond. start your phone-o-copiers!  in the forum: technical discussion › hardware
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 23:57 #9
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Subject: redmond. start your phone-o-copiers!
with all the excitement around iphone 4 and all apple's new media gadgets, as announced today, i found myself wondering what microsoft were up to on this front. it's been a while since i last heard anything about zune-phone, the iphone killer :loon:

anyway, i found this preview of windoze phone 7 on engadget. even their relentless winblows fanboi-ism couldnae paper over all the cracks; it sounds -as with all micro$oft junk- like a pisspoor copy of where apple [with iOS] and google [with android] were, about three years ago. i could almost feel sorry for them :laugh:
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 21:10 #10
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testing the server time
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topic: Apple Live Streaming Event 01/09/2010 (Is it going to work?)  in the forum: community › appletalker lounge
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 20:46 #11
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Quote by i5m:
...I guess so by the times on your posts... 

looking at which has just made me realise the server time is an hour out.  must've forgot to set BST up

hmmm... maybe i should leave it like that.  it  makes it look like appletalker were so 'first with the news' we announced it before steve jobs did!  :grin:
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 19:33 #12
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oh - and in answer to your original question, i5m...

  • streaming was 'unavailable. try again later' on my laptop, every time i tried to load the page
  • streaming worked mostly great on my iphone, apart from one or two periods where it flickered to black screen for about 30secs.

i wonder if apple had two separate streams going - one for macs and another for iOS devices? if so, they either devoted a lot more bandwidth to the iOS one, or not as many people tuned in that way.
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 19:30 #13
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steve doing his summary now.

  • best ipod lineup ever [well, of course. they'd hardly make them worse than the previous ones!  :rolleyes: ]

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  • ping - steve reckons it'll grow fast, as it's built into itunes and available for ipod/iphone to 167 million people right now [i think that's the figure he quoted]

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  • iOS 4,2 - didnae get any screenshots for this.  every time steve mentioned it, i was writing here, or transferrring other screengrabs across from my iphone.  but:
   -  'game centre' - presumably a dedicated games area in itunes [ipod touch is apparently the biggest selling portable games platform in the world, beating sony PSP and nintendo DS combined.  apple obviously sniffing a few more $$$ here and pampering to gamers more].
  - HDR built in


  • apple TV - pocket size.  looses purchasing and storage. gains rental and streaming

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so there you have it folks.  whaddya think?

i reckon there's a few interesting tidbits there.  the new ipod touch looks great.  i might have held off on getting an iphone a bit longer if that had been available a month or so ago.  

i'll probably download itunes 10 and check out ping, but i dinnae see it being a huge success.  apple seem to be overlooking two important factors here:
1: a social network based on one narrow subject area [ie. music] is going to be a bit restrictive i reckon
2: a surprisingly large number of people actually really dislike itunes and use it only as and when needed [i'm not too keen on it myself]. are they going to want to spend their social networking time inside the app?

appleTV disnae really interest me in it's primary role; i'm not a big TV or movie watcher and cannae imagine ever wanting to see something so much i'd actually pay to rent it.  the streaming capabilities on the other hand are interesting. i could see that being really useful in college; attach an appleTV to one of our plasma screens and then stream student work to it on presentation days at the end of briefs.  much less hassle than the current practice of burning everything to DVDs and then shuffling these in a laptop attached to the screen.
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madra (Administrator) 2010-09-01, 19:16 #14
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the "one more thing"...

new appleTV.  so small it fits in the palm of your hand [a quarter the size of the previous appleTV.  plugs directly into your TV via two sockets [HDI lead + power].  no purchases anymore on appleTV.  it's all rental now [no storage on the gadget itself].  everything streams.  steve says the rental will be so cheap, you'll be able to rent a movie any time you feel like watching it - and willnae worry about not being able to store it:

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rental
  • $4,99 - on release day for movies [will get cheaper as the movies get older]
  • 99c - for TV shows [ABC and fox signed up so far]

  • can stream from netflix for free
  • youtube built-in
  • stream content off your comp
  • 'airplay' - coming soon. will allow you to stream content from iOS device to your appleTV [via wifi, i presume]

[hmmm... in steve's world $4,99 might be the kind of money you can throw out multiple times to rent the same movie over and over again, but it sounds a bit steep to me]

new appleTV will cost $99 - down from $299 [steve's making a big thing about the price drop - but given that they've removed the storage, it must be causting them a lot less to make]
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new version of itunes with social networking built-in.  it's called "ping" and it's supposed to be music-centric.  there's also an iOS version which syncs your info across.

ping - apple jumps on several bandwagons at once


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sounds a bit of a weird one to me.  like lastFM meets facebook.  maybe i missed something tho' - the video broke up a bit while steve was introducing it, so i just caught the end.
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